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We've had an influx of new members from TheBestof2Worlds. I am sure there are good and honest people coming from there.

...But of course there will be lowlife scammers and their associates among them.

Truth be told, TheBestOf2Worlds has a tainted history. It is generally believed to be a scam site. There are numerous posts on Ripoff Report claiming that negative feedback on the site about their recommended casters get deleted...Some of us here have been down that road before on bruce smith's scam blog.

I suspect some, and perhaps all of theBestOf2World's recommended casters are scammers. Though Aisha Haadi may be a scammer who attacked rival scammers including thebestof2worlds on her blog, the scam she exposed has too many glaring similarities to what some of us experienced. Similarities only a fool would ignore.

After reading that, it should be understandable to be suspicious of casters who have you send western union payments to Sweden.

One thing is certain...

This forum will always be a place in which honesty is paramount.

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I think a scam. I used lovespells.ws and psychicdena.com. Both are advertised there. Lovespells.ws is a confirmed scam (with the Swedish connection) and psychicdena.com recommended that I use love-horoscope.org which I followed.

Love-horoscope.org- I cant say the results were delivered- and the "caster" no longer replies to my emails. Last time I got a reply was in Jan and naturally I am no longer contacting her as I know there will be no reply.

Thebestof2worlds.com was the only website which had my email address and to this email address I received invitation from Bruce. This shows that both these websites collaborate.

Going back to thebestof2worlds.com I cant believe this is genuine. No genuine website would be advertising and awarding casters that are confirmed scammers. Lovespells.ws- yes- money went to Sweden.
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I agree with the scam part of 2 worlds.. but i found this forum like many others... from 2 worlds... I have been chatting with a lot of people from there.. and with the suspicion of a couple, that I dont believe joined here, theyre just like us, tryiing to get results...

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Hi guys,
I found this site through the best of 2 worlds as well. The good thing about the bes of 2 world is that it has a chat that we can use. It's how a few of us came to be here I think.
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 As I mentioned, I am sure good folks are coming from that site. But there are some bad eggs too.

Several of us, including myself actually came from another scam site (mythralthemystic.com) We were tricked into believing that everyone who posted on the site was real.
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i can imagine upward... i am glad that i have found this site... and i do like the chat engine in 2worlds... other than that i could care less about what they are promoting...

i know some people there have used deborah and isis and are actually seeing results. in deborahs case, teresa from ebay is also involved, so not sure if the positivity is coming from teresa instead...

in the isis case, in talking with the person having great results, he and i are both questioning whether or not he would have had results anyways without a caster at all... But nonetheless, he bought, paid, and is in heaven with his results now. And he isnt even sure if isis is the reasson...
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Yeah I came from bestof2worlds.

Used Deborah from lovespells.ws too. Though I believe she has psychic capabilities, her spells didn't work for me. But they seem to be working for Kimmy and we had the same spell cast.

I go to bestof2worlds to chat with the others who have been burned like I have. So sad.


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i know some people there have used deborah and isis and are actually seeing results. in deborahs case, teresa from ebay is also involved, so not sure if the positivity is coming from teresa instead...

in the isis case, in talking with the person having great results, he and i are both questioning whether or not he would have had results anyways without a caster at all... But nonetheless, he bought, paid, and is in heaven with his results now. And he isnt even sure if isis is the reasson...

But how do you really know they are having results? Just like the scam blog I referred to, some of those people could be either the casters or their associates.

Also, there are people who have been scammed by Isis and Deborah.
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ok, let me clarify, i know people have been scammed by deb and isis... it is all over this forum and you can find it on the web..

all i am saying is this, if the people have results with there casters, then i am happy for them. i still wont use them.

and if you look at what i wrote, i said the one using deb was also using another caster from ebay.. and she started noticeing results after the ebay cast

and as far as the isis guy goes, he and i both are wondering if he wouldve still had the success he is having WITHOUT ANY SPELL caster at all... let alone isis...

i am not saying who is a scammer and who is not.. I read the info here, make a decison based on gut and go from there... i wish i wouldve found this sooner before i paid ashra's mortgage and vacation


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how do i know if they are having results.. i have to go by word


other than the lottery tickets scanned on here, i dont think you can do anything other than go by what people are saying and make a decision from there
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And if you look at what I wrote, I asked the following: "HOW DO YOU REALLY KNOW THEY ARE HAVING RESULTS?"

Some of us thought we may have been having results from casters only to realize we were scammed after all.


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yes, I know you said the other person is using another caster. So with that in mind as well as all the other red flags, I wouldn't use either
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i answered that before you replied... like i said, other than the scanned tickets, you have to go by word and decide from there if you believe it..

i also wondered about the positive signs they are having. (besides if it was maded up) what if 2 days from now it goes the opposite direction... did they have the results they wanted? i would say no. it is early.. i kow that...


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I posted as you were replying.

Since you are "going by word" and there are a lot of complaints about deborah, it should be a sign that she may be a scam. I suggest that people "go by word" at other places besides the site that is "recommending" said caster.




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Ok look...this whole thing is beginning to annoy the crap out of me. I chat on best of 2 worlds..yes, I did use Deborah..and yes I also used Teresa...and YES I am seeing results. I don't care what anyone thinks or says..I AM GETTING RESULTS. I can NOT tell you which caster is giving me positive results because I double whammy'd it so to speak but some of the wishes I made with Debbie are most definitely coming true. And as for any of us being scammers..I will give you my e-mail address..home address..phone number..facebook page..whatever...to prove I'm not a "scammer"..and honestly I don't care what anyone thinks right now. I had an amazing night with my ex and I am thanking the spells and the casters who did them for me.

Negativity and anger will NOT help your spells, just so you all know. Being so "oh this person is a scammer, don't use them" makes everyone else who did use them feel bad...you don't need to jump to conclusions right away about people just because YOU personally aren't seeing results. You can simply say "I bought a spell from so and so and I haven't seen any results" not "this person uses joe blow as their accountant so they're a scammer"...which, by the way, is also wrong about Debbie...the person you say she uses is NOT the person you send payment to..I sent mine to HER.

So take that and chew on it for a little.

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 As already discussed, I realize you don't know which caster you are getting results from.

Read the first two sentences of the first paragragh of my first post on this thread. I clearly state the following:

"I am sure there are good and honest people coming from there."

I also mentioned that several of us who have come from a scam site. None of us were associates of that site either.

The only neagtivity and anger I see is coming from some of you. lol.

We are not the only ones saying that love.ws is a possible scam. Just read the numerous posts on Ripoff Report. 

Oh, calm down and take this and chew on it for a while... miyabia2k, who is from  bestof2worlds is the one who posted that the email you send the money to for Isis is the same email for Deborah


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I know she was..and we talked about that also on the chat. When we come from that site it's only because we're looking for people who've had luck and where they've had it. We are all hurting in some way or another and we are looking for results. I have only been on the site for a little while..maybe 2 weeks total..but I can tell you a lot of the people who chat are my friends...we all have each other on our facebooks and all that stuff..I talk to some on AIM and everything. It just hurts that people think we are the bad ones because we chat on a site that may give some bad advice..the only reason I personally go on there anymore is to talk to people..not to look and see what new site they've reviewed or anything...that's what I come here for..but every thread I look at seems to have people saying bad things..my point is that not all magick will work for everyone...white magic may not work for Joe, but it might work perfectly for John...all situations are different..and posting that someone is a scammer just because you didn't get results isn't fair. The only person I posted about being a scammer was someone who I contacted for a "reading" and this person sent the same e-mail to me and about 5 of 6 other people...she wasn't offering for me to buy anything or anything like that..but people needed to know she was sending the same message to EVERYONE...and also, as I mentioned, anyone who is negative and angry will most definitely not see results in any spell..doubt is also a big problem for people who have had spells cast..ask any caster, they will tell you that..even the scammers...this site has been good for me..I found some people I will use if my results don't continue to be good...but it's like that old saying goes "you can't believe everything you read"...because honestly..it may not apply to you...

I just don't think it's fair for us from the site to be ridiculed because we chat on there...and that's what it feels like to us.

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Okay, lets get something out of the way.

I am NOT ridiculing you or the others that have posted. And I am NOT accusing you of being a scammer. Miyabia2k thought I called her a scammer in another thread. (And I did not. I actually repeated what I said back in December; that Aisha haadi was calling out another scammer)

We want everyone to be careful. We don't want anyone to get burned. 

The thought that went through my mind is that you guys are where some us were months ago.

There were some people who went as far as going on RipOff Report  to defend the the very same caster who eventually scammed them. They later told me that the caster threatened them.

As Daz mentioned, there is a possibility that mythralthemystic and bestOf2Worlds are connected. I sent money via western union to Argentina and Switzerland. Aisha warned about scammers in Argentina and Sweden.

I hope that Deborah is legit. It would be great if your spell with does Deborah work. But yes, we do have reason to suspect love.ws and Isis.

You will notice that nowhere have I insulted the people that have come here from bestOf2Worlds.



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 A couple of people at BestOf2Worlds mentioned over there that I thought Switzerland and Sweden are the same country. So for clarification, I will point out that I DID mean I sent money to Switzerland. Which is why I added that Aisha warned about scammers in Argentina and Sweden. (I've also visited Switzerland. I've never been to Sweden)

I also mention this in the first post in the "Bruce Smith Exposed" thread.
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Hi Kim, i'm pleased to hear you're getting results and I do think success with spells does depend on your own state of mind and your own belief in magic and whether you are sending out positive 'vibrations' (forgive the hippie description!).
I am currently using Zelma, and though there are negative comments about her on here, on balance i am prepared to say something is happening , though whether its down to her or not I couldn't say for sure as yet.
What worries me re Deborah at Love Spells aside from the strong association with the 2 worlds site, is the rubbish she said in her e mail when i contacted her (see thread on love spells site)....i cannot convey unfortuately in words just how ridiculous it was and I really would worry about using her. Maybe it is all down to your other caster? Sorry but i really think Deborah is a complete con artist .
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I know she was..and we talked about that also on the chat. When we come from that site it's only because we're looking for people who've had luck and where they've had it. We are all hurting in some way or another and we are looking for results. I have only been on the site for a little while..maybe 2 weeks total..but I can tell you a lot of the people who chat are my friends...we all have each other on our facebooks and all that stuff..I talk to some on AIM and everything. It just hurts that people think we are the bad ones because we chat on a site that may give some bad advice..the only reason I personally go on there anymore is to talk to people..not to look and see what new site they've reviewed or anything...that's what I come here for..but every thread I look at seems to have people saying bad things..my point is that not all magick will work for everyone...white magic may not work for Joe, but it might work perfectly for John...all situations are different..and posting that someone is a scammer just because you didn't get results isn't fair. The only person I posted about being a scammer was someone who I contacted for a "reading" and this person sent the same e-mail to me and about 5 of 6 other people...she wasn't offering for me to buy anything or anything like that..but people needed to know she was sending the same message to EVERYONE...and also, as I mentioned, anyone who is negative and angry will most definitely not see results in any spell..doubt is also a big problem for people who have had spells cast..ask any caster, they will tell you that..even the scammers...this site has been good for me..I found some people I will use if my results don't continue to be good...but it's like that old saying goes "you can't believe everything you read"...because honestly..it may not apply to you...

I just don't think it's fair for us from the site to be ridiculed because we chat on there...and that's what it feels like to us.


When people have mentioned that a caster may be a scammer, it is usually not just because their spell didn't work. It is because of other factors as well. Such as not replying to your email after they have your money and not honoring their guarantee and other red flags.  
  
  A site like Calastrogy is different. There are a LOT of people who say Calastrology's spells do not work. But since they do honor their money back guarantee, I do NOT consider them a scam. Their spells simply either do not work or aren't strong enough.
 
OF COURSE doubt and negativity will hinder spellwork. However, there is definitely a lot of positivity and people helping each other here. 

I am glad you enjoy the forum. Hopefully, we can all come to an agreement that there is no need for hostility here. 


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I know what you mean Kim. I 'm so happy for you wtih the results you are getting and that you are back on with your man. I have to admit when I saw some of the names of casters as scammers I immedaitely felt down and wondered if they are all the same. I know that the casters are not all the same even though I don't yet have any results as such (my spells are only 3 weeks old). When you look at the ones on ebay that have huge positive feedback we then know that spell casting is real. It gives us hope and makes us survive our traumas when we believe there is a solution on the way. I guess it is like the psychic world, there are good readers and there are bad ones. I think the results have a lot to do with the people that the spells are cast upon, belief, resistance, open mindedness etc etc. WE all need to be optomistic about our furtures because the alternative way of thinking is not so good. But of course at the same time learn from each other here about how we can avoid getting diddled out of our hard earnt money!!

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BTW,

Al of us who were chatting at 2 worlds have been banned.... Its really funny because there isnt much action on their chat now


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 I was asked to delete this thread a few weeks ago. The reason I did not is because this thread is testimony to the validity, honesty, and fairness of this forum.

  The fact that some of you were banned from there speaks volumes about that site. BTW, I found it rather amusing that you cannot type the word "scam" on their blog. (The word "unethical" will appear instead) 

I do not delete posts. (Unless it is some sort of flame war or if someone requests that I delete their posts) And I won't ban anyone unless they are out of line. Scam blogs like bruce smith's & thebestof2worlds cannot be this fair. Otherwise posters on their blogs would expose them for the lowlifes that they are.  

Since the last post in this thread, orderofisis apparently threatened one of his own customers. And Kim posted her experience with deborah in which she no longer believes deborah is legit. In fact she feels deborah "should be removed from the web PERIOD".

We are not out to blast casters to the moon. We share our experiences and in the end, you decide if the caster is trustworthy.

It would be naive to think casters aren't here; whether they came from thebestof2worlds or elsewhere. I mentioned on the lovespells.ws thread that I wouldn't be surprised if deborah found her way onto this forum. It is interesting that all of a sudden, "luckygirl5" claims to have won 10k in the lottery a couple of times. She might have simply read my posts here in which I proved I have been winning lottery games. Kim believes "luckygirl5" is actually deborah. 

It would have been great if thebestof2worlds was a legit and "ethical" site. IMHO, it is not.

 
  


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Upon going through the posts in the 'Bruce Smith Exposed?' thread, I re-read this post by Daz, which points out that bruce and 'thebestof2worlds' are connected.

Several months ago, bruce mentioned his "guest psychic". Here is what Daz had to say: 

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Someone mentioned that new guest psychic. I wrote B.S. to ask for contact details. He gave me a link to http://www.psychicdena.com. This worries me because she has been exposed as scam on ROR, etc. This is probably not even a guest psychic as he just directs you to her website. A guest would be someone else with email address only perhaps and having an agreement with him for his bloggers to write within specific time frame.
 
 


...Psychicdena is associated with 'thebestof2worlds'
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